Hi Rick,

Thanks for your question here on the forums!

Yes, it is possible to tilt the second part of your system together with the image surface. All you need to do is to add a Coordinate Break surface before the first surface of the L2 lens. This will tilt everything after the Coordinate Break, L2, L3 and the image surface too, as long as you don't add another Coordinate Break to restore the tilt.

You may read more about the Coordinate Break surface in the Help system at:

The Setup Tab > Editors Group (Setup Tab) > Lens Data Editor > Sequential Surfaces (lens data editor) > Coordinate Break

For further references, please check out these knowledgebase articles and forum posts which will give you more explanations and show you use cases:

How to tilt and decenter a sequential optical component · MyZemax

OpticsTalk: Coordinate Breaks - Usage & Applications · MyZemax

Envision 2020 Workshop: Coordinate Breaks · MyZemax

I hope this clears things up a bit, but if you have any further questions, please let us know and we will be happy to help!

Best,

Csilla

Hello again!

So, the tilting with one coordinate break works more or less. I was also able to tilt it about a certain pivot point. But, for some reason, when for example I tilt +4 about X, I get a point at a different field heigth than a tilt of -4 about X, for a symmetric system... Not sure how to proceed now...

There looks something strange about the tilt, as the red rays converge more to the purple rays at the first non tilted surface than the green rays.

From this image:

It seems that the ray fans are not modelled the same for the two angles.

Hi Rick,

I've been looking at your system and I can't duplicate everything without your black box lenses to work with. I can duplicate most of the behavior you are seeing outside of the black boxes, though. It looks like you have the global coordinate reference set to surface 5. This is why that lens and subsequent elements are all aligned horizontally. The tilt is still imposed, but just from a difference viewing angle. Instead of a horizontal beam bending down, you have an upward tilted beam bending to horizontal.

It also looks like you are changing the field definitions. At 4 degrees, your field starts the beam at the object sufficiently far up to make it horizontal when aimed at the stop, while at 7 the field is shrunk down a bit, so everything starts and remains at an upward trajectory.

If these are not correct evaluations on my part, it might be valuable for you to open a case so we can look at your actual system files, or at least for you to provide more detail about the settings you are using in the system explorer and properties on the lenses. Please let us know if this answers your questions.

Cheers,

Kevin